So yes, I see Alex Kurtzman making the connection & making them being made by the Romulans. According to Romulan legend, the "Day of Annihilation" will come when "all the shackled demons break their chains" and are led by a "Destroyer" called Seb-Cheneb. The Romulans came out of hiding because they thought the Borg attacks in the Neutral Zone were done by the Federation. Among the drones seen in recovery is a Romulan woman who was later identified as the aunt of Narissa and Rizzo, two Romulan operatives for the Zhat Vash. We’ve known the Borg interacted with the Romulans from the first season of The Next Generation. In the series, which is set in the … Star Trek: Picard continues with "Stardust City Rag" February 20th on CBS All Access And Amazon Prime. No slash fic. Created with Sketch. The Borg seek to assimilate cultures and technologies that would … What if the Romulans were an artificial race, created by the Vulcans? star-trek star-trek-tng borg star-trek-first-contact. The Borg are Back? Could the Romulans' big secret in Star Trek: Picard be that they were responsible for creating the Borg? The Romulans were a humanoid race from the planet Romulus. Unlikely. A major clue that the Romulans could've created the Borg many centuries ago comes from a prophecy spoken by a Romulan scholar called Ramdha. no. Created with Sketch. The Zhat Vash may have the same thinking. Craig first began contributing to Screen Rant in 2016, several years after graduating college, and has been ranting ever since, mostly to himself in a darkened room. Reply. Of course, there's still a lot of the Gamma and Delta quadrant that, as viewers, we don't know about. Nevertheless, Bruce was a clever boy, and if he could somehow make the connection between the Romulans and the Borg, he might've been tempted into creating the perfect android life form that would not only complete his life's work as a technical achievement, but would also succeed in bringing down both the Romulans and the Federation, gaining revenge upon those who thwarted his research in the first place. 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For the Romulan state of the same name in Star Trek Online, see Romulan Republic. Page 6: The Romulans & The Borg. 8 "far away", well, for the Federation it's far away. What is known is by … Like the Borg say, resistance is futile. Since joining the Screen Rant fold, Craig has been involved in breaking news stories and mildly controversial ranking lists, but now works predominantly as a features writer. Created with Sketch. The novels of Star Trek aren’t considered to be canon for the franchise. (TOS: \"Return to Tomorrow\") In 2369, evidence was discovered that several species including the Romulans, and therefore also the Vulcans, go back to DNA seeded on many planets by ancient humanoids 4.5 billion years ago. Why would you hate that curious as i have not really looked into the history of the borg or romulins. Considering what Laris was saying about Romulan technology in earlier episodes (that they have never been interested in artificial intelligence) it makes sense. These androids would have been created in pairs — so somewhere out there, Dahj has a twin named Soji. The main feature of the Borg as life forms is their mixture of organic and artificial life - Borg drones are created by "assimilating" organic matter with technological enhancements and a connection to a hive mind. Firstly, Ramdha recognizes Data's daughter, Soji, as Seb Cheneb and reveals that the Destroyer is one of two sisters. Adding together a shared Romulan/Borg myth, a deep dark secret and a burning hatred for robots, the most obvious conclusion is that the Romulans were somehow integral in the creation of the Borg. The Borg are cybernetic organisms linked in a hive mind called "the Collective". I'd like to think the Romulan concern about synthetics is more akin to the Reapers of the Mass Effect universe. The Romulans using Borg tech for their own purposes puts the Borg's dangerous tech in the hands of people who more underhanded in their methods and makes for a dangerous enemy. What are they doing aboard this cube? Spock once theorized that the Vulcans might be descendants of Sargon's species. Related: Star Trek Theory: Picard's New Hologram Evolved From DS9's Vic Fontaine. Like the Borg say, resistance is futile. Writer Paul Schneider created the Romulans for the 1966 Star Trek episode "Balance of Terror". Welcome to the party pal! share | improve this question | follow | asked Nov 2 '17 at 9:23. colmde colmde. The Borg seek living perfection by assimilating all artificial life into their own kind, and their entire purpose revolves around this goal, with individuality, emotion and relationships replaced by cold hard logic and a drive to spread as widely as possible across the universe. Craig has previously been published on sites such as Den of Geek, and after many coffee-drenched hours hunched over a laptop, part-time evening work eventually turned into a full-time career covering everything from the zombie apocalypse to the Starship Enterprise via the TARDIS. One of the many Romulans we created for Star Trek: Picard. Created with Sketch. A review of the action strategy title from Activision, Star Trek: Armada. Sure, the Klingons were a problem for a while, and the Borg seemed really dangerous at first, but the two major threats in the Star Trek universe are the Romulans and the Dominion. TL;DnR: I think the Zhat Vash are the Borg, who were created by the Romulans and Species 1 and 2 are the Klingons and the Remans. Related: Star Trek: Picard Hints At Discovery’s Red Angel Being A Starfleet Legend. Press J to jump to the feed. As for Dahj, if she truly was the "creator," she might've been built to house the original Romulan blueprints used to birth the Borg, giving the Zhat Vash another motivation to kill her. In the 2001 series finale of Star Trek: Voyager , Capt. Nick Robinson. The missing piece is how they could have gotten to the Delta Quadrant. The Novel That Did Defeat the Borg. Incalculably long ago in the Mass Effect universe, a synthetic life uprising became a threat to all organic life, so the Leviathan created Catalyst with the mandate of protecting organic life. Although Starfleet initially agreed to help the Romulan empire in their time of need, an ill-timed terrorist attack put paid to that, and this is the main source of the animosity between Starfleet and the Romulans. 18M views Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones … Star Trek gives good bad guy. Well the Borg were shown to be all over the Galaxy far away from the Alpha Quadrant & possibly existed millenniums before the Romulans even went into space & the when the Romuluns did first encounter the Borg, they didn't know what they were & thought the Federation was responsible. This is said to have been the first time the Borg attempted to turn Romulans into their own kind, although the accuracy of this statement is a topic of debate, but exactly why Romulan biology proved so resistant to Borg control remains a key mystery of Star Trek: Picard. Although any further details would be purely speculative, it fits with the established canon and timeline that the ancient Romulans could've started experimenting with artificial life forms, accidentally created the Borg and realized the terror their experiments had given rise to. They were attacked just as the Federation was in the episode “The Neutral Zone”. By the 24th century, the Romulan Star Empire was one of the major powers in the galaxy. The Borg are Back? Click the button below to start this article in quick view. 5843 days is over 16 years, which means since Star Trek: Picard is set in 2399, the Romulans somehow captured the Borg Cube at some point in 2383 - during the supernova crisis but … The Borg would come to a planet and assimilate that planet so that they basically become Borg. Reply. In fact, the Romulans likely have benefited from Borg technology for over a decade; the Star Trek: Picard trailer shows a sign inside the Borg Cube that says "This facility has gone 5843 days without an assimilation". 1 like. The attacks the Romulans complain about dangled as an unresolved plot device for quite some time, but there was a plan: Hurley had meant for this episode to compose part of a trilogy in which the Borg would be formally introduced. There is a theory that the Romulans were the ones to create the Borg. What if the Romulans created the Borg? The Borg got there within a year or so (I don't remember exactly). Centuries later, after those early Borg experiments had developed and spread across the galaxy, the Romulans and Borg have now come into contact again, spelling disaster for all. Picard tries to reason with the Borg. Star Trek: Picard has confirmed that Maddox was still working at the Daystrom Institute prior to Starfleet's synth ban, but took the change of legislation very badly and has barely been seen since. The second episode would have seen the Enterprise and the Romulans team up against the Borg. Interestingly, this group of Romulans are the only ones ever assimilated by the Collective — meaning the Borg never took an interest in Romulans the way they did in humans. The Novel That Did Defeat the Borg. Frequently, during Borg encounters, there's often a survivor or two, such as Guinan, or the people Seven saved in "Dark Frontier", so given that the Borg have probably encountered the Dominion at least once, there was probably at least one survivor, who probably told the Dominion government "Hey, I'll take what I can get in terms of Borg defense, and the Dominion is worth a shot". The attacks the Romulans complain about dangled as an unresolved plot device for quite some time, but there was a plan: Hurley had meant for this episode to compose part of a trilogy in which the Borg would be formally introduced. Having previously written for various sports and music outlets, Craig's interest soon turned to TV and film, where a steady upbringing of science fiction and comic books finally came into its own. It was the Caeliar. Created with Sketch. By "shackled demons," it's hard not to imagine Ramdha is referring to the disconnected Borg. Someone made the comparison that at some point in the ancient, distant past the Vulcans might have had their own version of Butlerian Jihad, in which AI were narrowly defeated and subsequently shunned. What if the Romulans were an artificial race, created by the Vulcans? It would make the universe seem too small. Were they responsible for the attack on and … I really doubt it. As a basis, he considered what the ancient Roman Empire might have looked like had it developed to the point of spaceflight. SlaveLynnGreen Sep 18, 2020. but the origin they shown was that the Borg were created by V'Ger as biological probes designed to collect data for v'ger, the Borg queen's species was found to be ideal candidates for organizing the data and eventually rebelled against v'ger taking control of the collective. The Star Trek: Picard EPs tell us that the Borg and the Romulans have "a new relationship" in this series and it could prove tricky for Captain Picard. More: Star Trek: What Happened When Picard & Spock Met In The Next Generation. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. In fact, the Romulans likely have benefited from Borg technology for over a decade; the Star Trek: Picard trailer shows a sign inside the Borg Cube that says "This facility has gone 5843 days without an assimilation". They killed her people, she tells him. Just curious is there an episode that references that and if so does that predate the knowledge of the romulans? The origin of the Borg is never made clear, though they are portrayed as having existed for hundreds of thousands of years (as attested by Guinan and the Borg Queen). Created with Sketch. With the returns of Seven of Nine and Hugh, Star Trek: Picard is diving deep into what happens when a Borg is separated from the Collective, and the Romulan Reclaimation Project is taking place on an entire Cube of inactive Borg drones. The Borg almost destroyed The Federation. Somewhere, somehow the Borg were accidentally created by the Vulcans, resulting in a huge cover-up just like Discovery/Control. This Is What a "Second-Person" Video Game Would Look Like. Why are the Romulans interested in the Borg? As things stand, the Borg have no clear creation story; the Collective was said to have developed over many thousands of years, but records of Borg activity in the Star Trek universe only go back 1000 years or so, with the species gradually becoming more dominant during that period. Interestingly, this group of Romulans are the only ones ever assimilated by the Collective — meaning the Borg never took an interest in Romulans the way they did in humans. What are the Romulans doing, period? There is a theory that the Romulans were the ones to create the Borg. And apparently she’s working at a Romulan reclamation site that also is a Borg cube. Says who? In terms of mythology, Star Trek: Picard delves heavily into both Borg and Romulan lore. Well, the Romulans left Vulcan around the 4th century CE, and the Borg were first reported a thousand years later, albeit on the other side of the galaxy, and long before propulsion like that was invented. It may seem far-fetched, but consider this: Star Trek: Picard has made it clear that it's possible to make androids that are, for all intents and purposes, indistinguishable from humans, as evidenced by Dahj and Soji. To Catalyst and the Reapers, synthetic life is a universal existential threat to all organic life, destined to overtake and extinguish organic life eventually no matter what. ... Romulans/Vulcans. According to Romulan legend, the "Day of Annihilation" will come when " all the shackled demons break their chains " and are led by a "Destroyer" called Seb-Cheneb. If the Borg Collective encountered paradoxical information about its own creation — thanks to the memories of the Romulans — it might be enough to make it short-circuit. In Star Trek: First Contact, the Borg Queen merely states that the Borg were once much like humanity, "flawed and weak", but gradually developed into a partially synthetic species in an ongoing attempt to evolve and perfect themselves. The Star Trek: Picard EPs tell us that the Borg and the Romulans have "a new relationship" in this series and it could prove tricky for Captain Picard. Related: Star Trek: Picard’s Best Easter Eggs (TOS, TNG, Voyager & More). The novels of Star Trek aren’t considered to be canon for the franchise. These androids would have been created in pairs — so somewhere out there, Dahj has a twin named Soji. The script that was shot was a first draft, and due to the writer's strike in place, no amendments were subsequently made. Star trek Legacy addressed the origins of the Borg, its a PC Games so can only be taken as beta cannon. Of course, the very fact that an ancient Romulan myth would predict destruction at the hands of the Borg hints at a deeper connection between the two species. They're not on same level as the Romulans or Ferengi or Klingons. The Rise, Fall, and Decay of the Borg (Lore Supercut) Lore Reloaded. Thus far in its first season, Star Trek: Picard has been a comparatively groundbreaking entry within the franchise’s mythology – Information has (at the least) 2 secret daughters, Picard resigned from a corrupt, conspiracy-addled Starfleet, Continue Reading By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. A one-stop shop for all things video games. ... Romulans/Vulcans. And how does the Borg/Romulan connection factor into the Martian incident? Welcome to The Popcast, we are self proclaimed "Pop Culture Historians" currently focused on science fiction and other sweaty topics. Reply. The last we see of the Romulan Empire in the timeline is in Star Trek: Picard. I knew that but it might have been where the romulans creation was sent to after a nasty encounter that almost killed all the romulans but they pulled a fast one and somehow transported the entire gen 1 borg as far away as they could hoping to never see them again? For the primary universe counterpart, see Romulan Star Empire. This character was one of the Black Ops – a tougher brute – slight cauliflower ear, and a bit of scaring. Continue scrolling to keep reading Click … I love her outfit so much!!! What are they doing aboard this cube? The Borg are an alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the Star Trek franchise. The Romulans … Reply. Physically, the Romulans were presented as humanoid, but the show's make-up department gave them pointed ears to distinguish them from humans. The Romulans being the main adversary until the Borg come along. The missing piece is how they could have gotten to the Delta Quadrant. So yes, I see Alex Kurtzman making the connection & making them being made by the Romulans. There are the warlike Klingons, the trickster Q, and the relentless Borg -- but before most of Trek's repeat villains came the Romulans. Given Jean-Luc Picard's own traumatic experiences with them, the Borg have appeared quite prominently throughout the first season of Star Trek: Picard. There are so many questions here. The big thing Picard does is explore the ramifications of the destruction of Romulus, which was the catalyst for the events of J.J. Abrams' Star Trek (2009) new Kelvin timeline. The Earth-Romulan War lasted just four years, but the effects of it may be the most important thing in all of Star Trek. Related: Picard's Romulan Protector Elnor: New Star Trek Character Explained. 536K views Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If the Borg were created by the Romulans, or some progenitor race of the denizens of Romulus, the ill effects could have been part of the initial programming that … Naturally, very little is known about this group, including whether they truly exist, but Laris and Zhaban reveal a few key details. Perhaps, however, the word "annihilation" was mistranslated, and should actually read "assimilation." Having created a race of cyborgs that now threaten all organic life, the Zhat Vash would be keen to not only conceal their own secret, but also to ensure no one else makes the same mistake. Star Trek: Picard is teasing a big secret involving two of the franchise's greatest enemies. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. It was the second episode of The Next Generation directed by … Similar reasoning would also explain how Ramdha recognizes Soji as Seb-Cheneb - her Romulan side knows the myth, but her Borg enhancements recognize Data's daughter as the leader who will break their chains. Maybe not the Borg we see today but the starting point. If Soji is the Destroyer, it would naturally follow that Dahj could represent the Creator. But how does Bruce Maddox factor into such a shadowy plot? 3.1 During or after the Time of Awakening, the Romulans settle on Romulus. Jim Carrey is Craig’s top acting pick and favorite topics include superheroes, anime and the unrecognized genius of the High School Musical trilogy. 4,851 3 3 gold badges 24 24 silver badges 35 35 bronze badges. The Romulans had been working on a dormant Borg Cube towards something dubbed the Romulan Reclamation Project, harvesting cybernetic parts from the Borg drones liberated and revived from the Cube. However, the secret Romulan cabal couldn't very well just send Starfleet a letter warning them not to meddle in synthetics any further. I wish I could order you one, you'd look amazing in it as an "evil Vulcan scientist". Director James L. Conway later explained, "If there hadn't been a strike, I think it would have been a better script." Just a fun thought. Well the Borg were shown to be all over the Galaxy far away from the Alpha Quadrant & possibly existed millenniums before the Romulans even went into space & the when the Romuluns did first encounter the Borg, they didn't know what they were & thought the Federation was responsible. =P. Star Trek: Picard revealed previously that the Romulans attained their Borg Cube when a Scout Ship from the Romulan empire was attacked by Borg and its occupants were assimilated. Sounds like something the Romulans might do, but the Borg? It's unclear why Soji, or even the Borg, would seek to destroy all life, since this isn't the villains' prime directive. This natural resistance to assimilation provides another intrinsic and ancient link between Borg and Romulan kind. The Borg are a whole new ballgame, she says. If Soji is designed to lead the Borg, why would've Maddox created her as such? The traditional Trek antagonists (Klingons/Romulans), the Borg, or the Dominion? Original Romulan design by Neville Page. While the Romulan prophecy of Ganmadan has allusions towards the Borg, it doesn't necessarily suggest one is responsible for the other's creation, although that picture changes when considering the other areas of Romulan culture Star Trek: Picard has revealed. However, there is something more insidious bubbling beneath the surface, no doubt connected to the Romulans' new mission to deconstruct an entire Cube of Borg drones. I can't wrap my brain around that. Why are the Romulans interested in the Borg? Unsurprisingly, Jean-Luc Picard finds himself at the center of events, after he was forced to watch one of Data's offspring get killed by her Romulan pursuers. It may seem far-fetched, but consider this: Star Trek: Picard has made it clear that it's possible to make androids that are, for all intents and purposes, indistinguishable from humans, as evidenced by Dahj and Soji. Then he attempts to defeat them. She created her own Borg faction, intending to use them to create a force for logic and order in the galaxy. What was your favorite faction you created specifically for this Mod? The Romulans being the main adversary until the Borg come along. Whether this is true or not seems to be something Star Trek: Picard is preparing to explore. Sure, the Klingons were a problem for a while, and the Borg seemed really dangerous at first, ... 6 Romulans: Created The Federation. The Federation had some other adversaries, but none as evil and capable as the Borg. Considering what Laris was saying about Romulan technology in earlier episodes (that they have never been interested in artificial intelligence) it makes sense. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://screenrant.com/star-trek-romulans-create-borg-picard-theory/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjsq5P93N_nAhVNX60KHbSgBjQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3GGnOwA62CYnlsawQlXxWP&cf=1. And apparently she’s working at a Romulan reclamation site that also is a Borg cube. A synthetic that can assimilate? Ivy95 Nov 19, 2020. We have every reason to think the Borg were a powerful technologically advanced faction while the major Alpha and Beta Quadrant powers were still developing warp drive. ... Maybe a little slash fic. I would hate it, and not just because we'd shrink an entire galaxy down. Well, the Romulans left Vulcan around the 4th century CE, and the Borg were first reported a thousand years later, albeit on the other side of the galaxy, and long before propulsion like that was invented. CBS. That’s what I’m starting to think. As a basis, he considered what the ancient Roman Empire might have looked like had it developed to the point of spaceflight. The first four episodes of Picard have established that the Romulans are working on a Borg Cube called The Artifact, salvaging Borg technology and studying drones cut off from the Borg Collective. Eh, the Borg Collective was a one trick pony after a while, having them try to assimilate Earth and Picard stops them would be old hat at this point. i always thought it was just the standard story of the vulcans creating AI, and then blew up in their faces. I'm hearing now rumors that they are deciding that the Romulans created the Borg. Thank you! The first four episodes of Picard have established that the Romulans are working on a Borg Cube called The Artifact, salvaging Borg technology and studying drones cut off from the Borg Collective. After a supernova destroyed the Romulan sun, the Romulan Free State became the official government. In the mirror universe, the Romulan Republic (sometimes known as the Romulan Empire) was an interstellar state government composed of member planets, colonies, and other outposts. Apparently, the Zhat Vash were formed to guard a secret that would affect the very foundation of Romulan culture if it were to be exposed. However, there is one novel in which Starfleet did defeat the Borg. If so, the Romulan prophecy is warning of a day when the Borg rise up at Soji's command and assimilate all life, everywhere. But, as so often happens when a female — an El-Aurian, in this case — speaks truth to power, her warnings fall on deaf ears. The Romulans had been working on a dormant Borg Cube towards something dubbed the Romulan Reclamation Project, harvesting cybernetic parts from the Borg drones liberated and revived from the Cube. 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